1 00:00:04,470 --> 00:00:02,790 and you're back inside of mission 2 00:00:06,869 --> 00:00:04,480 control houston dan hewitt here and i'm 3 00:00:08,549 --> 00:00:06,879 joined now by ray bigenus uh one of our 4 00:00:11,509 --> 00:00:08,559 visiting vehicle officers with the 5 00:00:13,350 --> 00:00:11,519 flight team here uh we're doing um kind 6 00:00:14,709 --> 00:00:13,360 of we've been talking to a few people as 7 00:00:16,870 --> 00:00:14,719 we're getting ready for the first 8 00:00:18,790 --> 00:00:16,880 orbital launch of cygnus scheduled to 9 00:00:20,310 --> 00:00:18,800 launch uh next week on 10 00:00:21,990 --> 00:00:20,320 september 17th docking with the 11 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:22,000 international space station on september 12 00:00:24,470 --> 00:00:23,199 22nd 13 00:00:26,070 --> 00:00:24,480 now ray 14 00:00:28,150 --> 00:00:26,080 you're a visiting vehicle officer real 15 00:00:31,029 --> 00:00:28,160 quick what is that what is your role 16 00:00:33,270 --> 00:00:31,039 here in mission control yep um i am a 17 00:00:34,950 --> 00:00:33,280 visiting vehicle officer vvo uh we're a 18 00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:34,960 space station flight controller that's 19 00:00:38,549 --> 00:00:36,480 responsible for 20 00:00:40,150 --> 00:00:38,559 the dynamic flight of any visiting 21 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:40,160 vehicle coming up to the space station 22 00:00:45,670 --> 00:00:42,719 so we look at um 23 00:00:49,110 --> 00:00:45,680 cygnus which is coming up next week uh 24 00:00:50,790 --> 00:00:49,120 the spacex dragon vehicle jax's htv 25 00:00:52,709 --> 00:00:50,800 esa's atv 26 00:00:54,229 --> 00:00:52,719 and there were all the russian vehicles 27 00:00:55,750 --> 00:00:54,239 so uh we kind of have our hands full 28 00:00:58,950 --> 00:00:55,760 it's a lot of traffic going to and from 29 00:01:00,389 --> 00:00:58,960 the space station these days absolutely 30 00:01:01,910 --> 00:01:00,399 so we look at the dynamic flight of the 31 00:01:04,710 --> 00:01:01,920 vehicles we make sure that 32 00:01:07,510 --> 00:01:04,720 the vehicle's on a safe trajectory as 33 00:01:09,270 --> 00:01:07,520 intended and we make sure that 34 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:09,280 they're following the timeline that the 35 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:11,360 crew is involved in the right way 36 00:01:16,630 --> 00:01:13,920 and everything's proceeding safely 37 00:01:18,870 --> 00:01:16,640 now this is going to be the very first 38 00:01:20,230 --> 00:01:18,880 cygnus to ever get to travel to the 39 00:01:21,670 --> 00:01:20,240 international space station is there 40 00:01:23,270 --> 00:01:21,680 anything special you guys are doing for 41 00:01:25,109 --> 00:01:23,280 this flight any preparation you're going 42 00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:25,119 through yeah this is this has been a 43 00:01:30,149 --> 00:01:27,040 work in progress for the last three to 44 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:30,159 four years for for me uh some of us in 45 00:01:34,390 --> 00:01:31,600 mission operations have been working on 46 00:01:35,749 --> 00:01:34,400 cygnus for five six seven years i know 47 00:01:37,590 --> 00:01:35,759 orbital's been working on it for a long 48 00:01:39,429 --> 00:01:37,600 time too so it's a long time coming oh 49 00:01:41,109 --> 00:01:39,439 yeah absolutely this is a 50 00:01:42,310 --> 00:01:41,119 this is a huge milestone for us this 51 00:01:44,870 --> 00:01:42,320 first flight 52 00:01:46,950 --> 00:01:44,880 we've had to 53 00:01:48,069 --> 00:01:46,960 watch as orbital designs of the vehicle 54 00:01:50,870 --> 00:01:48,079 make sure that it meets all of our 55 00:01:53,109 --> 00:01:50,880 requirements for safety and for the the 56 00:01:54,789 --> 00:01:53,119 prudent flight of the vehicle 57 00:01:56,789 --> 00:01:54,799 we've had to 58 00:01:58,149 --> 00:01:56,799 generate all the new ops products all 59 00:02:00,709 --> 00:01:58,159 the timelines 60 00:02:03,429 --> 00:02:00,719 all the procedures that the crew uses 61 00:02:04,870 --> 00:02:03,439 we've had to 62 00:02:07,190 --> 00:02:04,880 the biggest thing for the first flight 63 00:02:09,029 --> 00:02:07,200 is that we've had to design the 64 00:02:11,190 --> 00:02:09,039 demonstrations that the vehicle does to 65 00:02:12,550 --> 00:02:11,200 prove once it gets in orbit that it's 66 00:02:14,470 --> 00:02:12,560 it's viable 67 00:02:15,830 --> 00:02:14,480 what are some of those demonstrations 68 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:15,840 well so it's not just flying up and 69 00:02:19,190 --> 00:02:17,680 docking no it doesn't go straight well 70 00:02:20,229 --> 00:02:19,200 it is kind of going straight to iss but 71 00:02:22,630 --> 00:02:20,239 along the way 72 00:02:24,390 --> 00:02:22,640 it's doing 10 demonstrations uh all the 73 00:02:26,630 --> 00:02:24,400 way from just you know proving that it 74 00:02:28,150 --> 00:02:26,640 can perform attitude control 75 00:02:30,070 --> 00:02:28,160 all the way to 76 00:02:32,150 --> 00:02:30,080 uh you know making sure that it's it's 77 00:02:34,309 --> 00:02:32,160 close in proximity sensors are 78 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:34,319 working the way they should so there's 79 00:02:38,550 --> 00:02:36,800 ten demonstrations and we've had to 80 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:38,560 uh you know develop the pass fail 81 00:02:42,229 --> 00:02:40,480 criteria for those we've had to work 82 00:02:43,990 --> 00:02:42,239 with very closely with orbital to make 83 00:02:46,390 --> 00:02:44,000 sure that you know here's the standards 84 00:02:47,990 --> 00:02:46,400 that we expect uh the vehicle to perform 85 00:02:50,869 --> 00:02:48,000 to and 86 00:02:52,710 --> 00:02:50,879 please show us along the way 87 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:52,720 so it's going to be it's going to be an 88 00:02:56,150 --> 00:02:53,760 interesting 89 00:02:58,630 --> 00:02:56,160 a couple of days prior to the actual 90 00:03:00,390 --> 00:02:58,640 capture as they demonstrate the full 91 00:03:01,350 --> 00:03:00,400 capability of their vehicle is there any 92 00:03:03,110 --> 00:03:01,360 part of the flight that you're 93 00:03:05,110 --> 00:03:03,120 especially looking forward to that 94 00:03:07,509 --> 00:03:05,120 capture or anything 95 00:03:10,470 --> 00:03:07,519 the last 200 meters is is really where 96 00:03:12,309 --> 00:03:10,480 where we train for um 97 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:12,319 the most dynamic part of the flight 98 00:03:16,710 --> 00:03:13,840 we're pulling up you know cygnus is 99 00:03:18,229 --> 00:03:16,720 pulling up right underneath iss 100 00:03:19,750 --> 00:03:18,239 it's inside what we call the keep out 101 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:19,760 sphere we don't allow any vehicles 102 00:03:23,750 --> 00:03:21,760 inside the keep out sphere unless they 103 00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:23,760 have demonstrated that they can approach 104 00:03:29,030 --> 00:03:25,680 safely and have the proper fault 105 00:03:31,990 --> 00:03:29,040 tolerance so inside 200 meters is where 106 00:03:33,750 --> 00:03:32,000 the where my job really comes into play 107 00:03:35,910 --> 00:03:33,760 we give them a go to approach if 108 00:03:38,710 --> 00:03:35,920 everything's looking good and 109 00:03:40,710 --> 00:03:38,720 in particular inside 200 meters 110 00:03:42,869 --> 00:03:40,720 the the crew is involved quite a bit the 111 00:03:44,550 --> 00:03:42,879 iss crew they're looking out the window 112 00:03:45,910 --> 00:03:44,560 they're looking at their camera views 113 00:03:47,750 --> 00:03:45,920 they're looking at telemetry coming from 114 00:03:49,270 --> 00:03:47,760 cygnus and making sure that the vehicle 115 00:03:51,430 --> 00:03:49,280 is in the right place 116 00:03:53,190 --> 00:03:51,440 okay now 117 00:03:55,030 --> 00:03:53,200 cygnus makes it there it'll be the 118 00:03:56,470 --> 00:03:55,040 second u.s commercial company to be 119 00:03:58,550 --> 00:03:56,480 resupplying the international space 120 00:04:00,390 --> 00:03:58,560 station what are some of the differences 121 00:04:02,550 --> 00:04:00,400 between you know from your position 122 00:04:04,309 --> 00:04:02,560 monitoring these vehicles compared to 123 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:04,319 these commercial vehicles compared to 124 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:06,000 say the international partner of 125 00:04:11,670 --> 00:04:09,120 resupply ships like an htv or an atv or 126 00:04:12,869 --> 00:04:11,680 a uh progress yeah that's a really good 127 00:04:14,630 --> 00:04:12,879 question 128 00:04:16,949 --> 00:04:14,640 first and foremost it's different people 129 00:04:19,189 --> 00:04:16,959 from different countries 130 00:04:21,110 --> 00:04:19,199 the two american commercial vehicles are 131 00:04:22,310 --> 00:04:21,120 of course in america but 132 00:04:24,629 --> 00:04:22,320 you know they're two completely 133 00:04:26,550 --> 00:04:24,639 different companies that have different 134 00:04:27,749 --> 00:04:26,560 uh ways of doing things different 135 00:04:28,950 --> 00:04:27,759 personnel 136 00:04:30,790 --> 00:04:28,960 completely different procedures 137 00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:30,800 sometimes so 138 00:04:34,150 --> 00:04:32,160 in dealing with 139 00:04:35,830 --> 00:04:34,160 more than one at a time sometimes it's 140 00:04:37,830 --> 00:04:35,840 hard to keep track of you know the 141 00:04:39,510 --> 00:04:37,840 little subtle nuances of this one versus 142 00:04:41,189 --> 00:04:39,520 the other ones 143 00:04:44,870 --> 00:04:41,199 and of course when we start dealing with 144 00:04:46,390 --> 00:04:44,880 jaxa and isa and the russians 145 00:04:48,390 --> 00:04:46,400 you know there's of course 146 00:04:50,950 --> 00:04:48,400 the language differences are 147 00:04:52,310 --> 00:04:50,960 hard to overcome sometimes 148 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:52,320 the vehicles are all completely 149 00:04:56,469 --> 00:04:54,400 different so 150 00:04:59,110 --> 00:04:56,479 we have to keep track of 151 00:05:03,029 --> 00:05:01,270 the design of of one versus the design 152 00:05:05,670 --> 00:05:03,039 of the other and then at the end of the 153 00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:05,680 day we have to tell the crew how each 154 00:05:09,590 --> 00:05:08,000 vehicle is different because they may 155 00:05:11,830 --> 00:05:09,600 have just 156 00:05:13,749 --> 00:05:11,840 grappled htv for last month and now 157 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:13,759 they've got a cygnus coming up we don't 158 00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:15,759 want them thinking that they're the same 159 00:05:18,310 --> 00:05:16,880 because they're completely different 160 00:05:20,150 --> 00:05:18,320 vehicles 161 00:05:22,390 --> 00:05:20,160 okay well yeah like you're saying a lot 162 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:22,400 a lot of preparation work goes into 163 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:24,000 not only for the astronauts but the 164 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:25,440 teams down here on the ground getting 165 00:05:29,749 --> 00:05:27,280 ready for these vehicles 166 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:29,759 cygnus a fairly historical milestone 167 00:05:32,710 --> 00:05:31,360 will be the second commercial provider 168 00:05:34,790 --> 00:05:32,720 to come online resupplying the 169 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:34,800 international space station right here 170 00:05:38,230 --> 00:05:36,479 will be our visiting vehicle officer 171 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:38,240 inside mission control houston during 172 00:05:43,110 --> 00:05:41,280 that uh very historic moment for the 173 00:05:44,629 --> 00:05:43,120 station and uh human 174 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:44,639 space flight in general 175 00:05:47,830 --> 00:05:46,320 ray thanks so much for joining me here 176 00:05:49,670 --> 00:05:47,840 today giving us a little insight into 177 00:05:50,390 --> 00:05:49,680 the inner workings of the team behind 178 00:05:52,469 --> 00:05:50,400 the 179 00:05:53,909 --> 00:05:52,479 upcoming demonstration i really